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  KH Hall doors to remain locked during meetings?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
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  my mother in law told us this morning that they read a letter in her cong last night.

  from now on kh doors will be locked after 15 min of meeting start.

  only the fire exit (one way door) will remain unlocked.

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  The governing body seem to be upping the paranoia levels of its victims (followers). They'll be scared of their own shadows if the gb keep all this up with the Armageddon bunker videos and locking doors, etc
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  Creation, evolution, ???

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
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  was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

  the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.

  his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.

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  Can I ask how many of you presently study or have studied both creation AND evolution theories to arrive at what you believe to be true now?

  Creationists on here - have you also studied evolution?

  With the amount of information available out there to study it's going to take me years to discover what I now believe. It's a journey I'm willing to go on though. From what I've learned so far I'm leaning more towards agnostic/atheist at present 40:60. That ratio will change as I learn more I'm sure!
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  Evolution is a Fact #5 - Vitamin C

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  part 1 - protein functional redundancypart 2 - dna functional redundancypart 3 - ervspart 4 - smelly genes.

  in part 4 we saw that roughly half of the 800 genes in the human genome that code for olfactory receptors are broken remnants of our evolutionary history.

  they were vital to our distant ancestors but in humans, as in our primate cousins they have been allowed to fall into disuse as our eyes became more important to our survival than our nose.

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  Wouldn't a jw just rationalise this somehow as the gene was broken when eve and Adam sinned and it's part of our inherited imperfection?

  Cofty - i'm really enjoying reading through your series of posts on evolution, they help throw creationism out of the window altogether and you've made them easy to understand so thank you
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  Creation, evolution, ???

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

  the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.

  his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.

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  Sorry there are some odd words in my op, my predictive text on my phone is terrible. The first sentence is supposed to say with the driver and one of his work colleagues
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  Creation, evolution, ???

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

  the driver believes there must be other life out there, i agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist.

  his colleague who i think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans.

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  Freedom rocks

  Was on the bus today and got into a discussion somehow with the driver and ok be ood his work colleagues about whether there's life in other planets, evolution and creation.

  The driver believes there must be other life out there, I agree with him that life can't be unique to this planet out of the billions that exist. His colleague who I think might be a jw by his attitude and reasoning skills thinks we're the only planet with life on it and it was made perfect and exact purposely for humans. He said to me 'i guess you don't believe in creation then?'

  How would you have argued this topic if you were In the conversation?

  Do you thunk we're the only inhabited planet in existence?
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  First time

  by Deke in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  good evening all, this is my first time posting.. been reading and following for two years.

  my story will come soon.... but i want to say to all, thanks for all the meaningful, intellectual, honest, and insightful words!!

  it’s been an interesting 48 years of service to an organization!

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  Welcome Deke. This site and jwfacts helped me wake up and leave. I also went through the guilt, anger and acceptance phase when I was leaving and after i left. Now nearly a year out and I'm so happy and I've made lots of nice friends and I'm learning new things and discovering who I am again (Instead of being told who I should be). You have a wonderful journey of self discovery ahead of you now that you're free to be who you choose. Enjoy it!
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  Arguments I’ve Had: Historical Accuracy and the Bible

  by Saethydd in

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  2. experiences

  when i was a jw and still living with my parents i remember the way my father held what could almost be described as contempt for archeologists, paleontologists, and other scientists who dared to try explain what happened in past.

  he justified this attidtude with the argument that these people don’t have enough evidence to make such claims with any certainty.

  however, i see now that his viewpoint was more likely a defense mechanism to protect his presupposed conclusion that everything described in the bible actually happened.

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  Yeah I got nowhere discussing 607bce with a jw last year. They just say historians are wrong and that man's methods of carbon dating are wrong. They said historians are disregarding a load of evidence that makes you arrive at the year 607.

  It was a frustrating conversation because they wouldn't even look into it they just said you can only trust the societies literature because they do thorough research.
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  GB and being famous

  by asp59 in

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  have there been a gb in the organization before that like the 'spot light' as much as the current one?

  they seem to be everywhere.

  from broadcasting, to magazine and selfie jws post on facebook with them..

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  What happened to the "discreet" part of the faithful and discreet slave?

  I thought everyone was supposed to be equal in the org and there's no clergy class. They creep me out when I see them, there's just something creepy and untrustworthy about them. I felt the same when I was still a jw
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  WT Lap Dance Anyone?

  by Solzhenitsyn in

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  from the 11/2018 wt study edition:.

  lap dancing is a form of lewd conduct that is becoming more common in the world”.

  perhaps this observation goes hand in hand with the previous article pp.17 that “….

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  How on earth would they know unless they're out in places where lap dancing is going on. I've never heard about it becoming more common
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  The bridge

  by truthwillsetyoufree in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my father, who is an active jehovah’s witness, told me yesterday of an experience currently doing its rounds amongst the witnesses in relation to cart witnessing.

  there is a bridge called ‘the bridge’ which is a well known place for people committing suicide.

  apparently the jws have been setting up there literature carts there for a while now and ever since they have there has been no more suicide attempts from the bridge.

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  Maybe they've gone elsewhere rather than talk to jws at the cart